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enV Touch Tips, Tricks, and Hacks: Possible Way to find VERISIGN Keys???

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    Ok. So since we all know that Verisign keys are unique to each phone, but what if:
    Several people copied everything from their phone via bitpima and compared all the files to find differences in the files, rule out anything that is different because of phone number, contacts, setting, etc. and then try thos to crack them?

    Any thoughts to if this would work?
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     
    I think that you may be able to find the keys, but finding a way to implement them would be the hardest part.
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    But it would be a start so we would know exactly where to inject them in other files.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     
    What are you thinking about comparing? As in, which folders?
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    Like the actual code behind the files themselves. Search for strings of txt that are different.
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      CommentAuthorAndervil
    • CommentTimeFeb 15th 2010
     
    ive been wanting to do this for a few months now but have been getting shut down haha. a database of Brew files (and other files) would definitely be beneficial to the hacking community. Even if it doesnt work, it would at least serve as a valuable learning experience for those who are interested. I wonder if it would be possible to upload files onto envtouch.org (maybe the admin andy could figure something out). I have no idea how websites work, but if there was a way to upload files here, i'd gladly be among the first to do so.

    if anyone is familiar with wii hacking, i compared the raw code of a virtual console game from my system with the same game on my brothers system, and found a short segment of code that differed between the two games (this segment probably had something to do with the console-specificity of the game). I did not know how to use this information to my advantage, but it was fun investigating it.
    im sure there are genius env touch hackers out there that could work things out (if theyre not doing so already).
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    That is what I am saying. If we can dreate this database and get files compared and fing those different stings of code, we could possibly make "unmarked" or "clear, unsigned" versions and distribut them, then, once ou know your phones specific key, just edit the codes, put yours in, then dump it in your phone. If nothing else, we ight find a back door. and if it works... well then, guess what...
    We will have just cracked and hacked the BREW system which would be a huge breakthrough.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    I can see about finding a place to upload them tonight.
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    sweet
    • CommentAuthorCody
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    megaupload.com should work for uploading things.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    I thought about that, but I'm hoping to find a place where we can upload all of the files to the same page so we don't have a bunch of links.
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    Has anybody contacted Andy about trying to set something up? I know he would be more than happy to work on it provided he has the time. I haven't seen him online though.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010 edited
     
    His account says he hasn't been on since December 22nd. I think that if he does come back we need to add some more mods, at least in some regard.
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    Peteywell. Did you ever find a place to store them. I was thinking like a page that had other sub pages for the different apps and files then a homepage with progress updates. Who's gonna be incharge of everything though?
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    I'm still looking. I know of a bunch of file storage sites, but they all have limits or only hold a few files. I guess to start we could use one of these, but we'll be limited by how much space there is. The only other options that I can think of are uploading them one at a time (which would be tedious), emailing them(the files might be to large), setting up a personal web-server (someone would have to devote part of their bandwidth), or, in my opinion the best, find some way to contact Andy and see if he can make a site or add a feature to this one. We could also see if their is anyone that would let share their server with us.
    Do you know how big the files from a phone would be?
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      CommentAuthorAndervil
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    I think a megaupload account has a 2 uploads/day limit, and the files can be up to 500mb. That should be plenty. It would take us quite a few days to get our files onto it, but once on, theyll be accessible to all who possess the account name and password. It'd be hard to keep track of who gets to upload what and when, but you could simply try when you have some free time, if it works, it works, if not wait a day and try again. We'd have to include file name, and as detailed a description of the files as possible. ALL system files would be welcome, but each of us could just upload our brew directories at first (mine is only 50mb, well under the 500mb limit). Just a possibility. I don't mind setting up a generic email (envtouchdotorg@yahoo.com), megaupload account name (again something like envtouchdotorg) and password (same thing). These accounts would be accessible by all in the community wishing to partake.
    But yeah, better ideas would be....uh...better?
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    I'll ask around tomorrow and see if I can find a more permanent solution, but this seems like a start.
    • CommentAuthorCody
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     
    You don't need usernames etc to post to megaupload, and the files are permanent. Also, there's no upload limit that I'm aware of. All you do is upload the file, get the link to it, and post it here. Easy. No need for all the extra hassle.
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    What about using megaupload, then starting a discussion on here and making it a sticky so its always on the front, and then just keep updatng it with progress on compareing files and new finds. GOtta start somewhere
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2010
     
    I would like to make it a sticky, but I believe that Andy is the only one who can do that. If no one else starts an account in the next few hours, I'll start one for us.
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    Ok. I won't be able to upload anything till tommorrow afternoon and it would only be VZ nav. THats all I have though. Who is going to be a "Mod" for it. I would, but I don't have too much experience in the programming field.
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    DO you need an account to upload files. I'm not sure that this would be a problem, but with all of the traffic this site gets. I could imagine there being that one guy to upload a bunch of bull crap to the account to clog it up. Might I suggest not posting the info on the disscussion unless needed. Get back to me before you post it as I think we should just select the most active people on this thing.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2010
     
    Ok. What's your email? I made a gmail account to use as a registration for file sharing sites. I can send you the password and stuff. I'm in the process of making a Megaupload account with it at the moment.
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    commandofern01@gmail.com
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    Here. Its an alternative to using megaupload and we have 100 mb of upload space which should be enough.
    http://sites.google.com/site/envtouchbrew/
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    I need to work on it a bit. Can't upload. I'will post once its working
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010 edited
     
    Megaupload seems to have a large limit as well. I guess we can test both.
    EDIT: I like the custom layout of your site. I say we should use that once you get it working until we run out of space.
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    I just gotta work out how to have stuff uploaded. How big are the apps though. Vz nav says it's just under 10 mb
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010
     
    I would think that VZ Nav would be one of the biggest apps, but I don't know if it's actually 10 mb installed, or if that's just the download size.
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    I don't know. I'll copy it to my computer and check. I'm gonna look into making the website a login type deal.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010
     
    Ok. It should be good if you can get it set up. Let me know if you need any help.
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    Ok. SO i think Ive got a little work aound found out. Anyone interested in uploading your own files, please post your "gmail" email address here and I will invite you as either collaborators or owners since we can't have everyone on one email account incase people want to upload at the same time. Plus, we'lll be able to hold chat/conference sessions to disscuss what we find. Just post your info.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010
     
    peteywell@gmail.com
    envtouchdotorg@gmail.com
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    Ok peteywell, invited both of those emails. But i can't find where just the vz nav is in the brew folder.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2010
     
    I'll look some later tonight. If I get it, I'll upload what I find.
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    Ok.
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2010
     
    I'll upload the files in about an hour. Which files should I upload?
    • CommentAuthor4x4_Toyota
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2010
     
    dwgipe@gmail.com
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    peteywell. VZ nav if u can find it.
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    I cant find the vz nav files
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      CommentAuthorpeteywell
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2010
     
    I'll look for them as well.
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    Ok, for those who may be wondering why this thread has mostly gone dead, we've basically moved discussions to the thread:

    http://www.envtouch.org/discussion/851/verisign-security-certificate/#Item_40

    Thankyou
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      CommentAuthorAndervil
    • CommentTimeFeb 24th 2010
     
    yo dudes. my bad. just got a mac so have been messing around with that and not keeping up with all this good stuff. Count me in for the whole megaupload or whatever account/database is being made.
    al233833@muhlenberg.edu

    send login info pretty pretty please

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